Role playing games suck
The following spawned from this topic:
http://forums.rsbandb.com/viewtopic.php?t=55802
It got me going and now i want to list in full detail why most (not all) but most RPG games suck ass. Now ok I’m a video game dork, i admit. I like some role playing games (Oblivion, Fable, Jaden Empire, golden sun) but the mass majority? I hate them. With a passion.
And i hate even more how popular they get. I can’t understand WHY.
Why is Final Fantasy such a popular game? I’ve played several versions of it, on several platforms and i hated them all. It was nothing short of dull, uncreative and i’d seen it all before in several other RPGs. I’ve given RPG’s a fair chance. I brought Knights of the old Republic 1 cause everyone claimed it was amazing. It was dull.
I even rented Knights of the old republic 2 to give it another chance and i hated it even more.
So what is it, in my opinion that makes RPGs so crap?
Well for a start it’s the sheer amount of text. I get it, it’s “depth” it’s to suck you into the game world and make you feel like you’re actually playing the role of whoever. The problem with that is, most of these games have about 10 voice actors for hundreds of characters. It’s dull hearing the same voice over and over. And whats worse? The game always shows you there face when talking to them, it’s not fun to watch this guys lips move unrealistically up and down while he occasionally blinks like some robot.
HOW is that in the slightest bit interesting? The mass majority of the characters have NOTHING interesting to say, they talk CRAP, they do not help you progress, they do not provide an interesting story, they usually just talk dribble.
I was scared in knights of the old republic to talk to people because i would get sucked into wave after wave of text.
How can this be solved? Well in my opinion you should be able to just walk off. If someone was boring me in real life, I’d walk off. OR even better you can take oblivions approach but go one step further, see in oblivion you can kill anyone. Well, there should be a “shut the hell up” button, press it and you stab them in the face so they can’t talk anymore. That would make rpg’s more interest.
NEXT is the combat. Most RPG’s are heavily reliant on two things. Text and Combat. Most go with traditional turn based combat. And it is boring. It’s slow paced.
They try to create these epic battles with 5 enemys against you but they all attack in turns, what the hell? And the moves, christ there ALL the same animation. Once you’ve seen it once you’ve seen it. That’s it. He will do the same stance, same movements over and over.
Don’t believe how boring turn based combat is? Watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P0JfBOz9zwk
I DARE you to watch that all the way through. Just look at it. It’s dull, it’s repetitive and between the stupidly long text? It’s all there is. The boss just SITS there and lets them kick the crap out of him. He doesn’t even do anything. They all just stand there calm and relaxed to like it’s a freaking tea party.
Turn based fights are boring, uninspired, repetitive and agonizingly long when it comes to bosses.
So the solution? Well, Oblivion is on the right track, it’s gone with real time combat. But it’s still the same repetitive crap. It’s hack and slash.
Hack, Hack, hack, hack, hack, run away, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, hack, hack, hack
That’s oblivions combat. It is boring as hell, RPGs are supposed to be epic, the combat makes that flop so badly.
Fear not though, because it looks like Mass Effect is going to change that. Real time combat, with a cover system and multiple weapons. Although the makers did make KOTOR so i don’t hold out to much hope for it. However I’ll probably buy that one.
Role playing games would be 10X better if they gave you the ability to shut people up, if someone could come up with creative combat instead of the same over used repetitive crap that’s been done over and over. If they could get decent and lots of voice actors with some decent animators to make the text parts interesting.
The whole idea of a role play is to go in, get lost in the world and become a character in the game. The character is YOU. And personally, I’m short tempered and have a short attention spam, so give me the options i need to make the game more enjoyable.
In short:
Final Fantasy is crap, it’s boring, it’s repetitive and i cannot see why anyone likes it. Same goes for KOTOR and most other RPGs, it’s about time someone came in and redid the whole genre, redefined it and created something worth playing cause right now, you might as well buy a book, it’s cheaper and it’s a lot more interesting.
But I liked final fantasy…
Although, good point, it does get annoying somet… OMG A RANDOM ENCOUTER… imes.
Have you seen FFXII’s combat? That’s quite a bit different to the standard random-encounter-turn-based combat - everything is done within world, without any dramatic transition into a seperate space for your combat. I think that’s moving in the right direction, but it’s still not perfect.
Different people like different things, you make some good points that I can’t help but agree with.
Lol, hack, hack, hack, run away… heal, heal, heal, hack, hack,
I used to like FF but it got boring after 8 lol :$
Final Fantasy is popular because people buy it because it’s a Final Fantasy game, like Sonic. l0l. Most of the time, the games don’t even connect either. >.<
Although the stories might be… different. (Not original by a long shot though.) The game engine doesn’t appear to get changed at all throughout the games. Random Encounters; Repetitive Animations, Bad lip-synch, half hour long animated intros and outros… the list goes on… and there’s always a Dragon.
Anyway, I get so pissed off with how much text there is to read in games like… Neverwinter Nights. You play an RPG to run about and kill stuff, right? No. In this game, you spend an hour “training” (which consists of attacking wooden dummies) and listening to elders whine about some “great disease which you must find a cure for”. Then you get to go kill zombies, which are 3x your character’s level.
AND another thing, I hate it how… [i]oh crap, the gym leader sent out a Gengar. fuck fuck fuck fuck…[/i]
You can not satisfy everybody. Different people like different type of games like Alex said.
It wasn’t so much “this is my view, it over rules all yours and I’m right.” i was more interested in other peoples views on role playing games and what it is they saw in them.
I’ve put across my side of the story and cannot see why people find them interesting. Some like I’ve already said manage to balance it right but most seem to fall short.
“Theme: Sunburn by Jim Whimpey.”
Lol wtf his name is wimpy.
XD
Thanks KC, always nice to have your spam.
o_O i’ve spent hours just watching those final fantasy x videos :X
*twitch*
Mind telling me why? What do you see in them? What makes them good? I honestly couldn’t watch more than two minutes of the one i saw, it just bored me. XD
>.> did the comment get in? i’m having so much trouble with wordpress..
FFVII ftw… die creepy..
XD
You guys suck with your final fantasy’s. To this day I’ve never been able to play through a Final Fantasy game, i dunno, perhaps it’s just not my thing but i find it really hard to see whats so great about them.
To be honest I have not played even one Final Fantasy game, and I only played Knight of the Old Republic: at my friend’s house for around 2-3 hours.
People like the idea of RPGs since it allows to be someone they would dream on of being in real life. The whole idea of investing time and watching your character grow might be real amusing in the eyes of some people.
Personally I will take Pokemon for example. I bought Diamond version 3 months ago and didn’t realize what people found in that game interesting. Boring story line, tons of text and boring gameplay did not entertain me in any kind of way no matter what others had said. I stopped playing it after 4 days.
Just my 2 cents.
Never played an RPG in my life. Proud of it.
Not one? o.0
That’s quiet a thing.
I love RPGs because I feel that there has to be some aspect of repetition along with a good story, otherwise it gets confusing easily. I know what you mean though. RPGs, like RS, are sadly like that.
I like RPGs… Creepy do you like reading???
P.s. This was spawned from my topic yay!!!
I like reading sometimes, I’m not a big book worm. If a books story can capture my imagination and hold me there, so much so that i can’t put it down because i have to know what happens next then I’ll like it.
Some RPGs can do that, the mass majority can’t, there storys are to slow and don’t hold my attention.
Was playing Oblivion today though, i really do like that game..but it’s so darn time consuming i can’t get to far in it. XD
Well, Oblivion isn’t exactly “Hack, hack, hack, run, run, heal, heal.” It’s also got *AWESOME* graphics, good gameplay, and great races/skills/spells/swords/armour/ect.
Well, I admit, it does get old, but life doesn’t revolve around killing. There’s skills, too. Conjuration, and Aliteration are the easiest ones to max out.
Viva Piñata might be fun, but it does get old having to take care of your Piñata, over and over and OVER again…
I’d rather play Oblivion than any other RPG anyday.
What do you mean you can’t get into it, it’s fun! Wait until night, sneak in someone’s marketplace area, sneak and steal someone’s stuff, then run off to a Theives’ Guild fence who buys ‘hot’ items.
I got tons of strategy things for this game, I’ve maxed out Oblivion finnaly, and got everything maxed out as far as skills go.
It’s a time-killer game, and it’ll never get old. Last year’s Gphoria, Oblivion got #1 for RPGs. (The Gphoria is a telivised gamer show, it is like the VMAs but for Games.)
well yeah..final fantasy gets pretty boring..that’s why there’s challenges that people do when they have way too much free time
I didn’t say i can’t get into it (did i? o.0) i said it was time consuming.
I -like- oblivion and while there might be other things to do, most of the quests and things revolve around combat and A LOT of the game is combat based. So what i said is true, it is hack and slash. That’s all it is, very very basic combat which really takes away the epic feel i think there trying to create.
Viva pinata has variety, taking care of the animals is a difficult tasks because they all have different needs and wants, it’s not as repetitive as hack and slash style combat.
Yeah, I guess so…
Also, when I said you ‘Can’t get into it’, I thought it said that, but you really said “Can’t fer FAR in it”. That was my mistake.
Yeah, I admit, it is all around combat. But, that’s the fun of it! Killing someone, taking their armour, and their weapon, running around in their armour…
But, Viva Piñata does have it’s up and downs, but if I ever do play that game, all I do is grow Chili Peppers, and make money, I don’t really care for my Piñata at all.
But, even when you do max out a game, you know you’re still going to play it. That’s what I do with Oblivion.
~Steven